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We spend this podcast covering the wild turns of the internet world. We chat briefly about the rise of e-sports and their origin in grass roots leagues and the influence of Korea and Japan. We talk about the role of major corporations in transforming the level of the games, the role of money, and the exploitative nature of contracts. We discuss the controversy with FaZe and Tfue and the role of contracts, talent agencies, and multi-channel networks. This leads us to discuss the problematic components of Youtube and its engagement over everything business model. We talk about how Crowder’s harassment of Carlos Maza unveil the deep flaws in Youtube and wonder whether they are bugs or a feature of the platform.